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Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:42 pm

I got two machines which run Sid: the laptop and the PC
On one (the PC) minitube works just fine.
On the laptop it doesn't work:
I browse for some stuff and let it run
it plays, but i neither can see nor hear anything, just a black screen.

I got no clue about the internals of minitube (dep's or such, where are the configs, i used find and locate for my home folder: nothing to be found).
Perhaps one of you has got an idea what might be the difference

I also use this script:
Code:
#!/bin/bash 
# http://thatdeprecatedlinuxmachine.blogspot.de/2013/11/makeshift-diy-youtube-and-flash-video.html

URL=`zenity --title "Dirty Youtube Player" --text "Please paste URL here: " --entry`
if [ -f ~/.utubetmp ]
  then
   rm ~/.utubetmp
  else
   mkfifo .utubetmp
   youtube-dl $URL -o .utubetmp &
   sleep 5 && mplayer .utubetmp && rm .utubetmp
fi

and i know refracta comes with an app which play youtube videos too.
Both work fine, but don't allow me to browse for videos (i need to know the address in advance). For the script i am sure, for the app i am not (let me check that. If it can browse the case is closed).

Re: minitube

Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:28 am

Last time I looked at minitube it worked only in sid and pulled in a ****load of qt4 deps. That was some time back however.. gtk-youtube-viewer is comparatively lightweight and does much the same job. It can search from text (browse?), download or stream via mplayer or vlc.

This one (originally from antix) is good for wheezy: http://exegnulinux.net/refracta/experim ... 1_i386.deb

and this one (built here from source) is for jessie/sid: http://exegnulinux.net/refracta/experim ... 0_i386.deb

Re: minitube

Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:04 am

Yes, search from text is what i called "browse". I had no better word.
And yes, youtube-viewer-refracta works pretty well.

I don't remember why i didn't look that close at the app. I think when it entered refracta minitube worked for me (and i stick to things i know). But it is a long history of: works, works not, works, works not. At least for me, as someone who doesn't know enough about multimedia to troubleshoot problems.

I don't care much for dependencies, mainly simply too lazy, but i usually try to avoid non-repo apps. In this case i will go for the youtube-viewer (aka: make an exception).

Re: minitube

Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:30 pm

Code:
# apt-get install minitube
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libaudio2 libavc1394-0 libbasicusageenvironment0 libchromaprint0
  libcrystalhd3 libdirac-decoder0 libdirac-encoder0 libdvbpsi8 libebml4
  libfreerdp1 libgroupsock1 libiso9660-8 libkate1 liblivemedia23 libmatroska6
  libmpeg2-4 libphonon4 libproxy-tools libqt4-dbus libqt4-network libqt4-xml
  libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 libqtgui4 libshout3 libspeexdsp1 libtwolame0 libupnp6
  libusageenvironment1 libvcdinfo0 libvlc5 libvlccore7 libzvbi-common libzvbi0
  phonon phonon-backend-vlc qdbus qtchooser qtcore4-l10n vlc-data vlc-nox
Suggested packages:
  nas libchromaprint-tools python-acoustid firmware-crystalhd freerdp-x11
  qt4-qtconfig phonon-backend-gstreamer phonon-backend-mplayer qt4-default
  qt5-default
Recommended packages:
  vlc libdvdcss2
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libaudio2 libavc1394-0 libbasicusageenvironment0 libchromaprint0
  libcrystalhd3 libdirac-decoder0 libdirac-encoder0 libdvbpsi8 libebml4
  libfreerdp1 libgroupsock1 libiso9660-8 libkate1 liblivemedia23 libmatroska6
  libmpeg2-4 libphonon4 libproxy-tools libqt4-dbus libqt4-network libqt4-xml
  libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 libqtgui4 libshout3 libspeexdsp1 libtwolame0 libupnp6
  libusageenvironment1 libvcdinfo0 libvlc5 libvlccore7 libzvbi-common libzvbi0
  minitube phonon phonon-backend-vlc qdbus qtchooser qtcore4-l10n vlc-data
  vlc-nox
0 upgraded, 42 newly installed, 0 to remove and 21 not upgraded.
Need to get 19.0 MB of archives.
After this operation, 75.1 MB of additional disk space will be used

and it's not in wheezy nor backports at all. I also prefer only official packages but sometimes what I need is just not there (or not fully functional)

Re: minitube

Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:41 pm

I glance over such dep-lists very quickly (and sometimes / often not at all) and think: k, that looks fine
The only thing which jumps in my eye is phonon. I think "i _should " check what on earth that is. Then consider it too much trouble and simply install.
It is really lilke i said: too lazy to think about it.

I am not much of a fiddler in general. I usually take debian the way that it comes. I would do the same with any other distro (as long that is possible. Been fooling a bit with gentoo, and i didn't make any changes to the compiling process).

I got no stable machines anymore (and am not sure when i will install one again. I should install refracta these days, but am not very active right now. Perhaps tonight ... perhaps in 4 months).

But, in case it was not clear: I hear you, of course. It sure makes sense.

Re: minitube

Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:11 pm

dzz wrote:and this one (built here from source) is for jessie/sid: http://exegnulinux.net/refracta/experim ... 0_i386.deb


Superb! Thanks for that.

Re: minitube

Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:13 pm

did you try
# apt-get install --no-install-recommends minitube
(FWIW, i set that permanently via apt configuration file)

Also, if you don't know (for instance) what phonon is, remember you don't need to blindly peck around via commandline.
Synaptic}}Preferences}}ShowDetailsInPane (labeled something like that)

dpkg -info phonon
Is is reasonable to expect a noob (or myself) to remember, two days from now
"??? hmm, izzit dash i, dash L, double dash i..."

I often read replies which hand out commandline howto instructions
but I believe inexperienced users are able to learn faster, and better able to understand the overall packages/dependencies relationships
by interacting with their system via the Synaptic gui. Later, if they learn to recognize that commandline is faster than using the gui, great.

Re: minitube

Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:59 pm

I also got recommends turned off.. 75.1 MB was minitube and it's deps (see my posted terminal output)
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