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Re: Refracta wiki project

Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:31 pm

fsmithred wrote:Yes, the logo at the bottom looks good for a desktop background.

Check.

fsmithred wrote:Translucent vs. opaque on the new refracta logo in the desktop background image.

Ah . . . OK.

fsmithred wrote:Darker white in the text areas of the web pages. Nothing to do with logo. Or maybe I don't understand what you're asking.

There are two choices . . . well OK many choices . . . but just two for now.

1. LOGO - I rotated the figure in the logo and I think it looks much better. Compare these two:

Original logo on tiled 'star' background.

Rotated logo on tiled 'star' background. Looks much faster!

2. BACKGROUND - Background can be:

a solid color

or with tiled star background. Yes, it is a subtle difference but adds real depth to the background.

If you think that's confusing, you should see how many iterations I have going on here. :lol:
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Re: Refracta wiki project

Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:53 pm

nadir wrote:Sorry, no kidding, but i am a bit confused by all those links.

Tell me about it . . .

nadir wrote:btw, but i am not able to navigate to any sites (if you mean refracat-release-notes-7.0 at saynotogmos

Most of the internal links should be working but some may be broken because I'm moving a lot of stuff around. Many of the external links will need to be added.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:45 pm

Logo - I like the old way better. Rotated version looks like a guy falling over and makes me nervous.

Solid color vs. tiled - It's not clear to me what is tiled or where, but on the tiled version, the white looks slightly blue and a little darker than in the sold version. I like the tiled better for that reason.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:22 pm

fsmithred wrote:Logo - I like the old way better. Rotated version looks like a guy falling over and makes me nervous.

OK. You're the 'boss'.

fsmithred wrote:Solid color vs. tiled - It's not clear to me what is tiled or where, but on the tiled version, the white looks slightly blue and a little darker than in the sold version. I like the tiled better for that reason.

All the boxes on this page are a solid color - #f6f6f6.

All the boxes on this page use a repeating tile taken from the background image and reduced to a very low opacity.

Check it out this way . . . use a color picker on the first page and every box should read #f6f6f6. On the second page, the colors are all over the map because the original image is very complex. That constellation of colors is much richer than a flat, solid color. I suppose that perception depends on your monitor and your visual acuity - mine is very good. ;)

Remember to refresh your browser or you might not see the changes.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:46 pm

nadir wrote:2) team and such (footer): I meant to add your name somewhere as the one who has worked on the web-page (I proposed either the team-page or the footer or both).

The site is starting to shape up nicely. If this suggestion is still on the table, a mention on the team page might be appropriate. Don't know quite what to say about my contribution though. Needs some thought. Any ideas?

Re: Refracta wiki project

Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:16 am

As far it is me: yes, it is on the table.
(i skip a long explanation).

The bad news:
I got no idea what to put there. name (say golinux, if you want that): web-design, collecting some info, sorting them.
The problem is the style of that page (humorous ? ironic?). No need to stick to it. But it makes it hard for me to think.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:15 pm

Something like "web design by golinux" (or whoever you want to be) at the bottom of the page is appropriate. If you're a professional web designer, then that's free advertising. (And thanks much for the free work.)

The repeating tile makes sense to me now. I did what you suggested with the color picker.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:52 pm

fsmithred wrote:Something like "web design by golinux" (or whoever you want to be) at the bottom of the page is appropriate. If you're a professional web designer, then that's free advertising. (And thanks much for the free work.)

Some history . . . I got into computers and web design because I wanted to do a site about the GMO issue (you've probably taken a peek by now). I immersed myself in the process of how to build validated cross-browser compatible sites (dealing with IE5 and Netscape back then - big headache requiring lots of hacks) and got really good at it and also with Photoshop. Once I had those skills, I designed some sites for friends and a few of their friends more for the creative kick than for the under-market remuneration. So not professional in the sense of earning a living. Professional in the quality of the work which AFAIK years later still doesn’t explode when a new browser version comes out. I stopped doing it for many reasons - dumping windoze for Linux being the main one. Since I refused to play with MS anymore, I had no way to do cross-browser checking.

As to taking credit . . . really don't feel comfortable with a bottom of the page credit. Since there is so little content on most of them the attention would be disproportionate. Besides there’s the Wikipedia blub too which hopefully will get posted once the site goes live.

fsmithred wrote:The repeating tile makes sense to me now. I did what you suggested with the color picker.

Cool. The concept makes me think of Seurat . . .

In other news . . . please look at the resources and downloads pages. I have cleaned up the links except for yad, deadbeef etc. They may be buried in this thread. Have to search. Hopefully, the readmes soon.

If the site is going to be hosted in the same place, I'll set up a folder that you can just copy the contents and everything 'should' work OOTB.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:04 pm

Yes, it will be hosted at the same site. Right now, everything except the screenshots is in one directory, and the screenshots are not even in the web section - they're with the downloads. I'll be glad to have better organization. Do it right, and I'll create the necessary directories.

Deadbeef and yad links are floating around on my hard drive. I hope. They're not in this thread. Come to think of it, the last time I tried to find deadbeef, I only found the debs that I'd previously saved. I'll look around and see what I can find. Deadbeef might have come from Hadret.

Re: Refracta wiki project

Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:16 am

I would just like to confirm that the current layout of the site has passed your approval and that it now contains all the pages you think necessary. If so I am going to clean up the last bit of markup and wait for the final pieces from you - snapshot and installer readmes, corrections and possible rearranging of the last section of the release notes, the missing links and any additions you think would be useful to add to the resources page. I'm thinking that the download link should go directly to the wheezy folder. Or maybe we should have one going to the squeeze folder and one to testing.
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